Oct 07 2008

Belmont Debate – LIVEBLOG!

Posted by Steve Ross in Uncategorized

And it opens…Before I go further, let me say HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Newscoma. 29? I thought 25 at the most!

All questions that are asked will be paraphrased…

Question 1 – How will you fix the economy for people who are about to retire?

Obama does the obligatory opening thingy, then goes into his general plan. I think people want specifics, though Obama looks better on this first question than I thought he would.

McCain didn’t say anything.

On the follow-up, McCain talks about corruption and cronyism…I’m sure you know where I stand on that.

Obama starts off good with teh Buffett thing, and states that opportunity isn’t going to trickle down. Goes on to his middle class tax cut.

Question 2 – What about the bailout will actually help people?

McCain – Hammers Obama on fannie Mae contributions. Then gets to the answer, which he states is to buy up bad loans that are somehow Obama’s fault.

Obama – Talks about freeing up credit for small businesses. Blames deregulation. Slams McCain campaign chair for lobbying for Fannie and Freddie. Talks about keeping people in their homes.

—aside – I know they’re trying to stay civil, but just two questions in, I feel like McCain is about to lose it.

Question 3 – How can we trust either of you, when both parties got us into this mess?

Obama – I understand your frustration, and there’s a lot of blame to go around. Pre-Bush there was a surpluss, not a deficit. Debt almost doubled. Calls McCain out on voting for Bush Budgets. blah blah blah

Ok, this isn’t working for me…time to try and bring the funny.

The camera work on C-Span is weird. McCain is talking about pork barrel stuff. I think he’s gone over time, but I feel pretty sure Brokaw isn’t going to cut him off.

McCain “I don’t know much about the economy” says he knows how to fix the economy. brilliant!

Did McCain just say that some of the 700b ends up in the hands of terrorists? huh? I was drifting off there…in the shower of “my friends”.

A question about sacrifice? Americans don’t sacrifice anything but education!

McCain brings up the 767/EADS tanker thing. I don’t know that this is really a winner for him….

Seven Top McCain Aides And Fundraisers Helped Air Bus Secure Multi-Billion Air Force Contract Over Boeing. At least seven top McCain advisers and fundraisers – Thomas Loeffler, Susan Nelson, John Green, Kirsten Chadwick, Kirk Blalock, Aleix Jarvis and William Ball III – have all lobbied for EADS, the parent company of European airplane manufacturer Air Bus. McCain’s EADS lobbyists were influential in steering a multi-billion Air Force contract to Air Bus instead of Boeing. [Senate Lobbying Disclosure Records, accessed 5/30/08] (Source)

Obama is going after the class war. This is good. “It’s hard for a teacher making 30, 35,000 dollars to tighten her belt, when so many others are living high on the hog.”

McCain goes off on tax increases…oh somebody just shoot me in the head. What McCain is saying about small business tax increases is BULLSHIT. That only counts if you’re a sole proprietor, and making more than $250k. If you’re a sole proprietor making that much cash your a complete and total dipshit!

STRAIGHT TALK EXPRESS LOST A WHEEL!

McCain is a broken record with this maverick thing.

I never knew McCain had a bald spot. Interesting…

McCain is a broken record with EVERY FUCKING THING HE SAYS. Here’s my question, does Senator have a new, original thought in his head? Hell, does he have on old original thought?

Ahhh, the opportunity, is that anything like the rusty trombone?

Why is Obama talking like Captain James T. Kirk

Should we fund a Manhattan Project for energy, can someone make a joke about Manhattan Transfer? Please?

Healthcare as a commodity? interesting… Let’s see…Declaration of Independence, Life…AWWW DAMMIT. I guess healthcare as a commodity is unAmerican, but we’ll try it anyway. And that’s what we’ve done. I still don’t think that we should have to “buy” healthcare, but in the current environment, a huge expense on the federal government is out of the question. I’m glad Obama is beating McCain up on the whole 5000 dollar healthcare bullshit thing.

As a side note, I just wish someone would say the word “bullshit” on this debate. It would make me less sleepy.

Let me give a shout out to the D’San Corporation, provider of the timers that the candidates are TOTALLY IGNORING.

Healthcare – McCain says “responsibility” and puts the responsibility on business.
Obama says healthcare is a right. Good deal.

I think it’s funny that Obama is working against the camera director. I fucking fight that shit every damn event I do!

All this talk about healthcare makes me wanna smoke. bbiab.

Peacemaker v. warfighter…I’ll get to that in a minute

In every DOD, or DOD related event that I’ve done over the past several years, our soldiers are called warfighters, not peacekeepers. This is a huge difference. When military leaders talk about supporting our “warfighters” it’s code for avoiding all those “peacekeeping” missions that were largely successful in the 90’s. It’s a lot easier to rally the organizations that support the military like the VFW, etc. behind the notion of the warfighter, than the peacekeeper, but the difference should not be ignored. The military establishment over the past 8 years has been working toward a warfighting footing, or an aggressive posture rather than the defensive posture that should be the posture of a nation that is the “last remaining ’superpower’”.

BTW, this whole “We will kill bin Laden” thing is really disturbing. Are we really going to dedicate the full force of the US military against a single man who will be looked upon by his followers as a martyr upon his death, emboldening his followers? That’s FUCKING STUPID. Capture the fucker and put his ass to trial, and let him rot slowly in a supermax prison. Remove the martyr thing.

At this point I would just about love for this to devolve into an “Ultimate Fighting” thing. I wanna see who bites who first.

McCain is wetting his pants at the prospect of a new Cold War. He’s using all the code words. Unfortunately, in a world, partially sustained by McCain’s penchant for deregulation, Russia is in the catbird seat. They have more upside with energy than we do unless we start becoming more independent.

Questions about Russia

Russia hates being in the position they’re in post USSR. They want to be in contention for the top dog. Bringing these old protectorates back into the fold is a big deal for them. Further, McCain is right about the whole KGB thing. Putin is all about the old Russia. He is pissed about former states trying to join NATO. It’s a tightrope act.

WWIIIsrael

How the hell are either of them going to deal with this question in 2 minutes?

League of Democracies? Wha? Isn’t that NATO? WTF?

Okay last question. sorry but at this point I’m worn out. Sorry about the funny too. Funny’s harder when the anger is boiling over. This will be the longest 28 days of my life.

Thank God it’s over…that was painful.

I have no idea who won, but I know it wasn’t America.

Cheers.

No Responses to “Belmont Debate – LIVEBLOG!”

  1. Wintermute Says:

    how is this going to work?

  2. Wintermute Says:

    Neither of these fuckers is all that bright, but people get the leadership they deserve.

  3. Debates, Birthdays And Sacrifice – Newscoma Says:

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  4. newscoma Says:

    Well done sir. Well done!

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